PrimaLuna Owners Thread

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  1. Slimwhit

    Slimwhit Well-Known Member

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    Well, I’ve got a Prologue Premium coming on Wednesday and figured I’d set up a place to talk about it...

    It sounded like @blujay and @HiFi Guy already have or are about to jump in too.

    Anyone else have one? Any tips or rolling recommendations?
     
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    SnowmaNick Well-Known Member

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    Oh no, now there’s a thread! Must...resist...temptation.

    I’ve found tubes can be very Speaker and system dependent. It may help to share what the rest of your system is.
     
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    Slimwhit Well-Known Member

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    Why resist? Lol. You only live once!!

    PLX-1000 to Sutherland Insight to Prologue Premium to Klipsch Heresy III’s.
     
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    blujay Well-Known Member

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    I have the pre and power amp on the way. But won't have them until 9/18. Forgot I was gonna be out of town next weekend. They sounded so good I forgot what year it was.
     
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    I think this amp will make your Heresy's sing. Do you get enough satisfying bass from them now ? Many Heresy's owners add a sub at some time.

    Here is a good article on tube rolling from Prima Luna
    https://www.primaluna-usa.com/tube-rolling/

    Tube rolling can be a can a slippery slope and moeny pit now and prices have gone through the roof on many short supply nos tubes. Do your research on AK and SH forums, watch for bargains from reputable sellers, users, Avoid fakes on Ebay, etc.

    The great thing about the auto bias circuit in the Prima is you can try many different power tubes. EL34's will be a tad more musical, sweeter, and delicate, perhaps better for jazz, vocal, opera, classical for ie A Good vintage 6L6 may give you a taste of early McIntosh MC-30/225 vibe. KT series more oomph, power, and slam.

    Saying that Mullard, Tele, GE, and RCA have never let me down. There are also some pretty good new power tubes being made. The EL84M has really impressed me recently. PM me and I will share some other secrets as well
     
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  6. Slimwhit

    Slimwhit Well-Known Member

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    As of now I’m satisfied with the bass. But I’ll run them with the PrimaLuna for a few weeks before I make a determination.

    I figure I’ll give the stock tubes some time, but I’ll get it touch once I decide it’s time to start tinkering, thanks for the offer!
     
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    Following up on this:

    If staying with new production tubes, I tend to prefer Russian over Chinese. Mullard and Gold Lion are great new production tubes. Electro Harmonix are decent as well at a lower price.

    The Prima Luna amps use 12AU7 tubes as input and driver tubes- the smaller tubes at the front of the chassis. Changing the input tubes- the two center ones- are the least expensive way to fine tune the amp to your liking if needed.

    Output tubes- the PLs come with EL34s- a great sounding classic tube. I tend to prefer KT88s a bit more but they are nowhere near as durable or long lasting. If I were to change from EL34s, I'd probably go to Gold Lion KT77s.

    Tube rolling is kind of like food seasoning. You can make a small change to dial things in and get them "just right."
     
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    Slimwhit Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for all this info!

    Am I correct in assuming that I should use the stock tubes for a while?
     
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    I plan to.
     
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    Did you order yours too?
     
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    Not yet. Probably this week.
     
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    ..........going to demo Prima Luna next weekend :rolleyes::unsure::unsure::unsure::rolleyes::D:D:D:D:D:D
     
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    Bring an extra pair of pants.
     
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    The Prima Luna demo stand at F1 Audio............I'm so screwed :ROFLMAO:
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    Oh wow.
     
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    Two more days!!! I'm giddy...
     
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    NICE!!! You going with Black or Silver face? I initially said black but changed to the silver at the last minute.. figured it would go well with the Sutherland. lol
     
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    You should mention that you steered me their way last week, maybe they'll give you a little discount! lol
     
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