Vinyl Cleaners

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  1. Enoch

    Enoch Well-Known Member

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    I am saving up Amazon points and credits to buy a vinyl cleaner, I am looking at getting

    Okki Nokki
    advantages: it is the cheapest one, it is fast, @Mather likes it
    disadvantages: would need to buy accessories for 10" and 7" - does only one at a time
    iSonic
    advantages: does three at a time of any size
    disadavantages: take longer, cost more, not enough reviews that I have found
    Kirmuss Audio
    advantages: does four at a time
    disadvantages: when available is the most exspensive, sizes are fixed (two 12", one 10", one 7")​


    These are three I have heard about that are under $1000. I am open to other suggestions as well. I really am looking for something that does 7" - 12" (out of the box if possible) and works well
     
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    You realize options 2 and 3 don't dry the album, right? What about a VPI or a Pro-Ject?
     
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    I did, do the two options you mentioned require adapters for the different vinyl sizes (in my brief search I didn't see it mentioned one way or another) also while searching those I came across Record Doctor V, I realize it is a manual turn but it is cheaper (could buy now)
     
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    You'll need different sized wands for the two options I mentioned. Also you'll want to make sure to not use alcohol based fluid to clean. It's still debated whether it's ok for vinyl (I say no) but it is absolute that you don't use alcohol on shellac.

    I'm not sure how the Nitty Gritty based models (Record Doctor V or KAB EV1) handle non 12" discs- there must be accessories for them as well.
     
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    For the VPI you may need an adapter for large hole 45s but I’ve made it work without getting an adapter. I did end up buying the 7” and 10” pickup tubes. If you have a record larger than a 12” it may not fit in the VPI.
     
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    I have three but they don't fit on my TT anyways, more just collector's pieces
     
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    All of the vaccum based cleaners are going to clean about the same. It comes down to automated features and what fluid you decide to use.

    The ultrasonic cleaners theoretically do a better job, but the less expensive ones don't dry. I don't like the idea of using a cloth to dry.

    The very best option I see would be a combination, but you'd want a platter less vacuum- the Record Doctor or Pro-Ject. Clean them in the ultrasonic and vacuum dry.

    You could start out with a vacuum unit, and get the ultrasonic later if you feel the need to up your cleaning game.

    And as much as I'd love an Audio Desk, there's no way I'm spending $3k plus for one. Vacuum cleaning works great for me (and others here).
     
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    I think I will go with the Record Doctor V then as I have enough credit with Amazon to buy it now for free and add the cover (I read I can rig the suction brush to work with 10" and 7"), what cleaning solution do you recommend (homemade is fine too)
     
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    It'll come with fluid to get you going. The fluid is most likely Nitty Gritty Pure 2. It does have some alcohol in it- don't use it on shellac.

    My favorite fluid is Todd The Vinyl Junkie Vinylzyme Gold. It's $50 for a bottle of concentrate that makes 1-2 gallons. I mix extra strength so 1 gallon which lasts me over a year. Its actually the least expensive fluid you can buy in the long haul. Alcohol free. I'm not sure if it's safe for shellac. I'd email and ask. Mix with Aquafina water.

    https://www.ttvjaudio.com/TTVJAudio_Vinyl_Zyme_Record_Cleaner_2_oz_Concentra_p/aat0001000.htm
     
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    yeah, I am going to do a lot of research before cleaning my 78"s using anything
     
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    it arrived today, I cleaned 24 albums, two modern 10" and 2 7" - a total of 37 pieces of vinyl - four of the records were used and look really good - because of the noise I wasn't able to listen to any of them yet, probably tomorrow
     
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    So what do you think?
     
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    Seems to work well, clean a good bit of recent purchases - got better a spreading the fluid so I don't use as much
     
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    Happened to see that Pro-Ject Wash It concentrate is alcohol free and safe for both vinyl and shellac.
     
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    good to know
     
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    I use a homemade ultrasonic setup followed by a rinse and vacuum with a Squeaky Clean. The squeaky clean takes up more space than some of the other options and you need an external shop vac - but it also doesn't trap water in an mdf chamber begging for mold like the other lower priced options.

    https://www.squeakycleanvinyl.com/
     
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    Welcome! Lots of folks here are on the Squeaky Clean bandwagon.
     
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    I have read and been warned not to vacuum a dry record as it will damage it, just out of curiosity what type of damage will occur
     
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    You’ll open a wormhole.
     
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    that might be preferable
     
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